Jacqueline and Caroline. Their names go together. |
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I was mulling over names in bed last night, especially the ones we give our daughters. These tags are a lifelong gift--or, maybe, in some cases, a hated curse. But I do believe we live up to our names.
It took me a while to own my name, Alice--but now I embrace it.
I toyed with giving Figgy a flower name, like Rose or Iris, but Dan was all for naming her after my mother, since he knew how much I missed her. I loved that idea, too.
I hadn't thought about the pattern, but Figgy recently pointed it out to me. My grandmother, Alice, named her daughter Anne. Then my mother, Anne, named her daughter Alice. Then I named my daughter Anne. So Figgy pointed out that she would consider naming a girl Alice to follow the pattern. [WOW!]
Just because it feels good, and like a connection to honor in these uncertain times, here is a list of some of my friends, cousins, nieces, sisters-in-law and even famous people, like Caroline Kennedy or Dylan Lauren of Dylan's Candy Bar [daughter of Ralph Lauren] and their mothers' names. I have usually listed the eldest daughter. For example, my Aunt Gloria has three girls, and Maria is the firstborn.
I had Punchy and her birth mom on here, but P. asked me to remove them when I ran it by her.
Please tell me some pairs I missed! Sorry I can't get 2nd column to line up here.
DAUGHTER MOTHER
- MaryAnne [Sis] Anne
- Anne Alice
- Muriel Harriet [Hattie]
- Maureen [Moey] Muriel
- Laura Maureen [Moey]
- Susan [Fritch] Helen
- Lorraine Gilda
- Lauren Lorraine
- Adrienne Rosemary
- Irene Maria
- Anne Hope
- Emily Anne
- Hope Mary Lea
- Meggy Joan
- Sugar [doggy] Delilah
- Madonna/Candy Pat
- Elisabeth Madonna/Candy
- Linda Edith
- Lori Linda
- Andrea Judi
- Maria Gloria
- Theresa Mary
- Veronica Peggy
- Kim Doris
- Yasmine Kim
- Amelia Ali
- Liz Mum [LOL, what is Mum's name, Liz?
- Lionna Liz
- Nan Marilyn
- Clara Mary
- Celia Debby
- Meg Sally
- Rosemary Rose
- Caroline Jacqueline
- Rose Caroline
- Lynda Bird Lady Bird
- Tricia Pat
- Susan Betty
- Chelsea Hillary
- Malia Michelle
- Jane Judge Ruth
- Ivanka Ivana
- Amelia Elizabeth
- Chloe Candice
- Liza Judy
- Sheila Roseann
- Amy Judy
- Amy Natalie
- Susan Alice
- Patricia Dawn
- Dawn Shirley
- Catherine Patricia
- Heather Catherine
- Nancy Rita
- Gwen Nancy
- Elly Ann
- Eileen Patricia
- Mary Agnes
- Eileen Mary
- Izzy Eileen
- Donna Anita
- Mariah Donna
- Aubrey Beth
- Leah Jerri
- Julie Ina
- Sophie Julie
- Barbara Evelyn
- Marlene Rose
- Maria Inez
- Claire Catherine
- Catherine Claire
- Elizabeth Rachael
- Devon Angela
- Lilith Jessi
- Vaurie Sianne
- Sianne Lynn (sp)
- Julia Doreen
- Brynn Courtney
- Taylor Christina
- Patricia Judi
- Anna Gail
- Lisa Judy
- Caroline Mary
- Caroline Cathy (sp)
- Alexandra Lydia
- Amalia Obie
- Georgia Jean
- Mary Mary
- Catherine Beth
- Heather Catherine
- Freya Natalie
- Susan Vera
- Maddy Patsy
- Lisa Cheryl
- Kathy Joan
- Kathleen Ronnie
- Ariana Julie
- Ruby Angel
- Judy Patricia
- Julie Anne (sp?) Judy
- Luisa Kate
- Dylan Ricky
- Ella Paige
- Dylan Jenn (sp)
- Anne Mary
- Apple Gwyneth
- Luci Lucy
- Mary Jane Jo
- Marissa Mary Jane
- Claire Rosie
- Eileen. Nora
- Nora Eileen
- Edith Caroline
- Michelle (sp) Marilyn
- Nicole Diana
- Olivia Beverly
- Maggie Carol
- Debbie Virginia
- Elizabeth Eleanor
- Julie Elaine
- Michelle Margaret
- Tammy Beverlie
- Brenda Carol
- Ella Marilynn
- Alice Sheila
- Elliot Sasha
- Sonia Anne
- Sarah Edie
I love the story of your cyclical mother-daughter naming. So lovely! For Y, I wanted a name that was Eastern, but not too hard to pronounce. but also not mainstream. when a college friend of ours introduced us to his girlfriend Y ( who became his wife), several years before we had kids, I knew I found it. It had the bonus points of having not been used by F's very large family. That changed by the way, there are 2 younger Y's in the family now.
ReplyDeleteAnd M has a story, too (don't they all). MY mother wanted to name me that, but my dad was on a kick that it sounded too swedish (which is hilarious because he really identified with his roots). Dad named me. But Mom always regretted it and I grew up knowing I should have been ML. When we were planning on getting pregnant 2nd time, I was wondering what girl names to use -- I was floating more Eastern names (there are so many beautiful girl ones; I could have had a dozen!), and F said what about ML? I was like, really, should we? And we kept it a secret from Mom until after she was born. We floated another name during the pregnancy. We didn't know the gender of the baby beforehand, so it was great fun to tell her that not only she had another granddaughter, but finally got her ML.
ReplyDeleteAND... one more thought! Both girls "look" like their names, Y carries the more Eastern look, ML, the more Scandinavian, but it was totally luck. they were named in utero before we had any idea of their looks.
ReplyDeleteWow, Kim...I love YOUR story! I love the history of ML's name. I love that both of your daughters do indeed fit their names...it wouldn't seem right had their names been interchanged. Or is it that we grow to resemble our names? No, their physical beauty--and even personalities-- match their names in the case of Y and ML. I also love that you knew you had found Y's name years before you had her. Did you also have a feeling you would have daughters, not sons? I am so grateful for daughter(s). And wow, two more Ys in the family now! Thanks for writing, and #staysafe at work. Love Alice
DeleteMum is Madeline, and so is my sister. Her mother was Margaret, and the grandparent we had the little longest, living her last 5-6 years with Mum. Will was to be Margaret. John was to be Amanda. John was a VERY strong name in our family Dad, Dad's Dad, my brother, and 2 of my cousins. Will is namedf Uncle Bill, my dad's oldest brother and bachelor who was good to all his many nieces and nephews. BTW, Dad's Mother was Ellen, and the year after Dad died, Ellen was one of the first people I met standing in line for law school registration. I liked her right away and have talked to her pretty much weekly, if not more, since.
ReplyDeleteFeel connected to me, Alice, I doubt my sons know their great grandmother's names the way you do now! Hee.
Liz
Liz, thanks for the stories....I love hearing them. Madeline...pretty name. One thing I don't understand: "BTW, Dad's Mother was Ellen, and the year after Dad died, Ellen was one of the first people I met standing in line for law school registration. I liked her right away and have talked to her pretty much weekly, if not more, since." Had you not met Ellen before? And how cool you were both on line to register for law school. Wow. Love Alice
DeleteBTW, IDK what Nan's full name is...Nanette, Nancy, etc. :)
DeleteI love both Anne and Alice!
ReplyDeleteWe also have a pattern beginning .. my mom was Nora, and now of course, I have my Nora. You seem to know an unusual number of Eileens. :)
Hi Eileen. So glad you could comment again! I was 99 percent sure your mom was Nora but didn't want to be wrong. So lovely to have a daughter named for your mom, isn't it? My mom's mother, Alice, was I think a bit of a pickle for my Mom, but maybe not when she was/they were younger....sending love. Stay safe. Love Alice xoxoxo
DeleteYay, I was able to comment!
ReplyDeleteYes. I think my mom also had a difficult mother.
ReplyDeleteThe thread isn't exact, but her mother was Mary Ellen. And my dad's mom was Mary. I'm Eileen Mary, so really, that almost kicks it back one generation earlier. :)
I also hated my name when I was little, but I like it now. And Nora hates her name, but I KNOW she's going to appreciate it some day! ;)